Hi all,

Is Pro 6 still avaialable for purchase despite Fusion taking the lead ....thinking of getting Studio 7 otherwise ?

Steve, I think there's been a post by Aaron or Ardent stating specifically that MM no longer offers either Pro 6 or Studio 6 ... can't find the link just at present, but I think I've seen it in the Fusion Help forum.

Drop Aaron an email and ask him personally. I think the more people that want to buy Pro 6 the more likely we are to see further improvements. Or maybe even a Pro 7 !!! Here's his email: aaron@mixmeister.com

Steve's,

As Mme has pointed out, Aaron has stated that cut and dry "Fusion & Studio 7 are the future for MixMeister".

In order to be considered alongside the likes of Ableton (the pro's current tool of choice), they need to offer a product that operates to what a professional expects - I.E. sequencer type operation, live looping, VST plugins and a GUI that doesn't look like Excel on LSD!

In the same way that Microsoft move on (Vista will not work with all hardware and software that XP does, XP did not work with all hardware and software that ME did etc. etc.), Aaron & company have taken the decision to move ahead, and still remain at the front of inovative DJ technology, as opposed to churning out the same product year after year just calling it a different colour each time - PCDJ Red anyone, no?

R.

Excellent points Wildr ..The future is Fusion and thanks for pointing out the facts.

For anyone still interested, I've found someone selling MM Pro 6 on ebay for silly money...

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As Plur states below, this links to illegal copies of the programme, and therefore I have removed your link. I believe you posted this in all innocence, so no further action is warranted. Wildr.

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I hope this is some help, as I was looking for to buy a copy of this myself previously. All the best!

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sorry to be so blunt justified... but your post should be deleted as the offers you listed for both pro 5 and pro 6 are clearly not for original disc/packaging. i get the sneaky suspicion that sellers are offering a bootleg version of the program. (the program simply burned to a cd... probably numerous times) sure it's public information being that it's posted on ebay, but i don't this is the right site to discuss something like this.

perhaps your post if fine, but the links should be removed.

just my opinion.

(To be fair, I've known a handful of DJs who continue to swear by PCDJ Red and swear AT every subsequent release...)

While I realize that Fusion is the future of Mixmeister (I was one of the people who did a preorder!), I must say that I think that its a poor choice for Mixmeister to no longer offer Pro 6.

Think about it: selling MMPro6 is effectively free money - the people who prefer its interface can purchase it, and since Mixmeister isn't adding any new bits to it (except a few random bugfixes if necessary), outside of the bandwidth to transfer it, any royalties for MP3 decoding, and possibly a support e-mail or two, Mixmeister hasn't made any major investment, and they've got a satisfied customer who will likely upgrade to Fusion at some point in the future.

Despite having a license to Fusion and Fusion/Video, I still do live gigs with Pro 6. It works the way I think, I find it easier and faster to manipulate (One day I'll carve out an afternoon and put *every* song through the beat slicer, but MMPro6 doesn't require most of that manual labor).
Mixmeister != Ableton != PCDJ. Mixmeister = Mixmeister. Don't rob yourselves of your uniqueness - if I wanted Ableton or PCDJ, I'd have given them my money instead.

Joey

There are no intentions (at all) by the developers of MM to sell Pro6, or further continue support for Pro6, including the release of any final patches or bugfixes for the product. I, for one, would have liked to have seen a final patch release to Pro6 for those of us who were seriously committed to this previous generation of software. It might have made the transition easier for all of us.

However, I have never been as adverse to transitioning to the new platform as some. I had used MM since back in 2002, and I had seen the problems with the earlier versions of the software. So some of the initial problems with Fusion (which I first evaluated in January of last year--2007) did not worry me because I remembered all kinds of issues with older versions of what eventually became Pro6, which seemed, in many ways, to be similar issues--those general to all varieties of totally new software releases.

Issues, as you mention, with the song slicer have been greatly resolved, to the point that I find that I have to do very little, if any, manipulation with it at all. You mention in your profile that you spin Trance and Vocal Dance, and if that means mostly straight 4 meters, I doubt you'll have to do much, if any, manipulation with the slicer. Today, with the current release of Fusion, the only problems I ever experience with the song slicer are in areas where music may have a clearly undefined beat pattern--very similar to the same issues I've always experienced in Pro6 and previous MM products.

At this juncture, I can more appreciate the clean break MM has made with that older product line, having now used Fusion successfully since November. It was a painful transition, but, for me, worth it in every respect. I can do more now than I ever did with Pro 6 or any of the previous products, and it is much easier for me to do it. That said, it took me two months of concerted effort and learning (several hours a day practice) to get the program to run efficiently on a completely new dual-core system, and master the program to the point that I was comfortable using it in public performance. There are still things that I'm learning about it. But, after 6 years of using the older line of software, I believe, in hindsight, that should have been expected.

I guess the thing that concerns me most about users of the older products, is that they don't get themselves to a point of complete obsolescence with their software and/or their software skills. At the time I took the plunge, that was the ultimate determining factor for me in moving off the older product. Whatever your decision about this issue, you need to make one. The pace of software change and development is very rapid today. It does not wait for you. The Pro line is gone. It's not hanging around like vinyl.

So, now's a good time to check out those other software packages. I know I did, and I came right back to where I started. After trying, I believe strongly that the others are not created the same or equal.

Vynyl is not dead.Quite alive.Though I tend to Dj for an older crowd mixed crowds 30s to sixtys when I Mix from iether the CD players,MMPro6 to the turntable; numerous young people are captivated by my 45 collection and a few Albums that I bring.Fusion checked it out on friends computer.Do not like it.Do not like Vista.They have to make a living and new software roll outs are the only way to go for them.Thats the buiseness model they have.I am in my fifties doubt very much is going to change
in my part time work.MMPro6 allowed me to do away with crates of records boxes of CDs and some hardware initially.Still using a DBX digital expander after the Mix deck before the Amps.MMPro6 love the Interface.Not cheesy looking or over complicated small footprint on computer resources.VSTs with a spinright wrapper,Waves,Timeworks,even some VST instruments.It is easier though with KVr drivers on the audigy and two screens to pipe in midi and VST instruments in real time. Quite a lot works in MMpro6.When a screen is available vidio is awesome.I will be retired if anything substantial changes in my scene.Till then MMPro6 all the way with my vynyl and turntables and ocasionaly my dual 8 track deck tapes and a teac cassete player.Young people are so curios.