Everytime I attempt to create a CD recordable I get an error message stating "unable to initialize the CD-R engine". Does anyone have a solution?

Send an e-mail to support@mixmeister.com. The wonderful team will be able to help. Make sure you include you order number and/or registration key.

---JET

Is it necessart to 'uninstall' your current MMP4 and then 'install' the update? Or will the updated version install over the current version?

Thanks.

I did this recently, I think I uninstalled first but left the catalog data in place (I think this was an option during uninstall but I might be dreaming...can someone confirm?)

Monkey Do,

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not really sure what to do and I don't want to mess anything up. I emailed the MM support guys and I'm waiting for a reply. Initially after I asked to get the update the MM guys sent me some web download links but I wasn't sure how to procede.

Can someone confirm about how to install MMP4 updates?

Thanks.

The worst thing that can happen with a re-install is you may have to re-import and re-initialize all of your music files. Remember, MixMeister software uses non-destructive editing so you're safe. Yes, I know with MMP4 the ID3 tags can be edited, but you can turn this function off AND this does not affect the music fidelity of the original music file.

If you are using the web-based download link I suggest completely un-installing MixMeister first.

---JET

Also, trust me, give it time---you'll hear from MixMeister support.

---JET

Thanks JET!

You're always right on the money.

I had a broken MMP4 recording engine from a clean install. Strangely its now working, I cant attribute the now working MMP4 to anything specific - but things I have done to my machine include:

Update to latest version of Nero 5.5.10
Update InCD 3.51.91
Flash the firmware of my Yamaha writer F1
Use a new stock of CD's.

I find the output direct from MMP4 to CD produces a much cleaner CD than going via Nero. Dont know if this is strictly true, but to my ears it does.

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Originally posted by Omlette Brothers:
I find the output direct from MMP4 to CD produces a much cleaner CD than going via Nero. Dont know if this is strictly true, but to my ears it does.

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I find there's a "sonic richness" to CDs made straight from MM that I don't hear e.g., using an optical digital cable and recording from my CD deck onto my Marantz burner, or burning from some other app on the computer such as MMJB. Like OB, I don't know if this is true in the sense of being measurable by some method (JET, what would that method be?) ... but it's certainly the way I hear it.

I've also noticed this phenomenon, but I can't put my finger on why - it's just that the CD's burned direct from MM somehow sound better. I recently changed my CD burner and actually burned an identical set from Nero and then direct from MM as a test and the MM burn sounded better produced. It was marginal but still noticable.

Weird.

You ought to do a double blind test: MonkeyDo you set up a list of songs in the MM Playlist and the identical songs, in the same order, in the Nero "to be burned" list, take two identical CD-R's label one MM and the other DD and have Mrs MD create the CD-R's without you. Then, do a back-to-back comparison---you sit in the chair and Mrs MD plays the music and does the switching.

The difference between the two may not be psychosomatic but to say we have a strong bias towards MixMeister creations would be grossly understated!

---JET

As Jet suggests create two CDRs from different sources with identical material. However there are a couple of other things that could be tested for:

1) Audiograbber creates a CRC for each ripped tune. You could use this CRC to determine whether each song is identical.

2) Recording Engine - The software that drives the CD Writer may or may not influence what is physically written to the CDR.

I'll test these theories on the TF vs OB set.

...oo00Mixmeister mixes your whites, whiter!OOoo...

Here are a couple of suggestions for those of you who may be having trouble creating a CD-R with MixMeister. If these suggestions don't help or you suspect something else, send an e-mail to MixMeister Support and the great support team will have you burning in no time. (Be sure to include your order number and/or your registration key)

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1) Close all other applications, except MixMeister and try again---this included disconnecting from the internet

2) Choose a slower write speed: if 32x doesn't work, try 12x; if 12x doesn't work try 8x; etc.

3) Try using a different CD-R; believe it or not, there are many differences in the quality of manufacture of the CD-Rs on the market.

---JET

Here is another test that may be interesting:

Take each of the resulting CDs and use Nero to import an ISO image file from the CD. Do a file compare of the images to see how different they are. There is a DOS based utility called FC that will do this.

Interested in the results,

MM_Aaron
www.mixmeister.com

Not really sure what to make of this - It wasn't a result I was expecting.

Essentially using Audiograbber which calculates a CRC based only on the audio information. The CD drive will be transparently correcting bit errors (using a technique known as C2).

So MMP4 vs Nero 5.5.100.

20 tracks, 9 had different CRC values. Some substantially different.

Take a look at the info from the Nero burn:



Then look at the info from the MMP4 burn:



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[This message was edited by Omlette Brothers on AUG 18, 2003 at 00:10.]

Indicate no pause or silence between the tracks.

...oo00Mixmeister mixes your whites, whiter!OOoo...

I don't suppose you'd like to interpret the difference for the non-technically-aware in the audience? (Only if you have the time.....)

MadameFly, my theory about the differences runs along this thought.

My guess is that the differences lie at the heart of the recording engine. All data must be WAV at 16bit 44Khz when burnt to CD. The export of WAV data from Mixmeister uses the same MP3 decoder engine as the one used to burn directly to CD.

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