Hello BeatMixig Community
It has been a long time. Hope all is well with you all.

I have recently upgraded to Windows 7 on a Dell Studio ( 2 Duo Core and 3GB Ram). I installed MixMeister Fusion and did two live fundraising gigs. I noticed there was some warbling and my add-ons such as the EQ and Compressor were not working so well. So I decided to come home to this forum to try to get some insight on what needs to be done.

I noticed the 7.4.2 update to include Windows 7 users. I have done about six hours of reading here and have more uncertainty than positive attitude before I just go ahead and install 7.4.2

1) Is 7.4.2 the newest (latest) update?
2) Are all the bugs worked out and the patches been worked into the program so one does not have to add the patches manually as described in this link? http://community.beatmixing.co...91063351/m/725102872
3) I was reading something I can not find now that I want to refer to it…. Nonetheless, it was something mentioning that the program auto stopped at the next son??? Confused???
4) I would like to use 64 bit... Does anyone think 32 or 64 would be better than the other?
5) Last and most importantly, If I add the newest version (install), then add my music, add-ons, skins and wait for all my music to be processed (days later)…. Will everything run pretty smoothly or do I need to make any modifications that were different from say a year ago?

It would be nice to hear from a couple people as for some may be experiencing no issues as other may have found some good tips and trick.

I thank you all and good to see the forum is still going strong. (Even without me… LOL!)

Banter

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Hello Banter

I am running Windows 7 64bit on my home machine and i am having a ton of problems. They all have been addressed for months, but nothing has been done about them.

I am still playing around with stuff to try to make it better, but nothing yet.

Hmmmm, Thanks “D”

If I will only be running MixMeister, Add-On’s and External Sound Card… I am thinking Win7 32bit would due just fine seeing there really is no need for the 64bit… no high profile programs.
I could understand if I were to run a few programs at one time (as I do on my personal home computer) but I am only running MixMeister… What’s your take “D”… you think it would just be easier to use 32bit and is MixMeister running “Very” stable on Win7 32bit?

Thanks
Banter

Well, Here is some food for thought… Basically answers to my 32bit vs 64bit questions.
The following is a link explaining whether or not one should make the switch to 64bit or stay safe with 32bit. The key is to stay safe. However the link is saying: if your computer can handle 64bit and you use 4gb of ram or higher… well make the switch. Although, if your program can not function properly “yet”, it may behoove you to play it save with 32bit until the manufactures of the programs get the hang of 64bit. In short, eventually everything will go 64bit but only 20% of programs are on board.
http://www.w7forums.com/window...-vs-32-bit-t484.html

So I guess now my question is:
Is anyone out there using MixMeister Fusion on Windows7 32bit?
How stable is it? Pros and Cons (please).

This will not only help me and others but MixMeister as well. Feedback is good :]

BTW: Once I made the switch to Windows7 64bit… I never ran on such a stable O/S. And every problem I ever had with drivers using Vista… They all went away. I give Windows7 a “10”.

Banter

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I am running MMF 7.2.2 on a Win 7 64bit machine with no problems.

The latest version of MMF is wonky on Windows 7, and I understand the peeps at MM are working on it.

I had previously installed 7.4.x, but it would not export mixes, save mix playlists, or burn a disc without forcing it to run in admin mode, which my computer somehow has a problem with.

I might just have to do that Rodney. I guess i will go back and uninstall it all and install an old version.

I know they have been working on it but its been months now and no updates.

Thanks Rodney and D-Mixx.

MMF 7.2.2 is just a little to far back for me. I tried 7.3.2 and it felt like I went back in time with MMF when we had that awful warbling (warping sound). I could not even fathom going back to 7.2.2

Ok, I guess I will be waiting on windows 7 64bit

Does anyone have any advice, opinions or experience with Window 7 using 32bit?

Thanks
Banter

7.4.4 is the Win7 32/64 build with all the fixes applied. Previous versions will not work on these Os's

UUUUUUUUUUUUU, Hummmm…

I was enthusiastic that you would participate a little more in this post Simon.
I even sent you a private post in hopes that you could let some of us in on what is going on. Not that I am complaining…. I just want to know what’s best.

Thanks
Banter

7.4.4 has not been released yet, right?

Released in November 09, as announced here.

Well Here I am again… LOL!
Thought I was well out of the blogging days but I guess if I can help anyone with the same quests and questions that I may have, well I am more than willing to put forth for my Brothers and Sisters.

I have done some homework so I can Update to MMF 7.4.4
If you have a computer that is only running MixMeister, the music needed and some music programs I do not see it so important to install the 64bit. We all know MixMeister will run on 32bit. Besides, I have noticed that there have been some freezing issues on every day work I am doing on my personal computer. Oh, and one important thing… 32bit can not run fast or use more that 3.5GB of ram where at the same point, it is not recommended that you use 64bit on less than 4GB of ram. If you do not believe that I can only say, “Test it out yourself”. I tested it and cam to the conclusion that the 64bit ran slow on less than 4GB while 32bit did not get any fast once I was over 3GB of ram

Monday:
I will install MMF 7.4.4 on my Dell 2duo core Studio 1535 with 3GB of ram.
Ok, this is complete and the install went very easy. I added my “Add-Ons” without a hitch. Added my personal “Skin” and it is still working in MMF 7.4.4 (Nice)!
I have added my music to include 156GB of 26,665 tunes. I did this a couple weeks ago when I installed everything on the 64bit operating system and it took more than 5days to analyze all the tunes. However 9hours into this install more than 1/3 of the music is analyzed already. I personally believe it has to do with what I explained above. More (64bit) is not always better!

I will keep you all posted with this install. I will take it one step at a time. For now I will wait for all the music to get analyzed and then I will go on to test other steps. Till then, Chow.

Banter

Just for the record, I have Studio 7.4.4 installed on a new W7/64bit machine and it did have a couple of issues which I understand are being resolved ... Ozone presets did not appear properly in the Ozone interface (other effects are available and working, but I'm happier with Ozone) ... CD burning was very sketchy, needed an updated Gear driver ... and that dang txt file format for getting a usable set-list out of the program.

However, the loading of the library (mine is on a 1T internal HD and is something in excess of 30K tracks) was flawless and the operation of the program has no hiccups at all ...

Fusion 7.4.4 runs flawless for me in all OS's even a hybrid Linux/windows I built. I'm can't wait for Fusion+Video 7.4.4 (?!!?) I hope it will fix the bugs created in all past versions. I run (on the same computer) XP (x64), XP MCE (x86),Vista (x86) and (x64),W7 Pro (x64),Ubuntu 9.0 all share the Programs folder. I test a great deal of my own programs before distro. I am a DJ in a Club and privates. Kudos to the MM Team on Fusion 7.4.4

The only thing that happens in all 32 bit OS running 4 gig or more is that OS won't page more than 3 1/2 gigs of ram. No performance loss for installing more ram, only most people see it as a waste if the OS can't see it. I run 8 gigs of ram on this machine all running at 800 mhz. (3) 1.5 tb drives two in a raid setup.

Two HUGE problems with Fusion (tried 7.3.4, then 7.4.2, then today 7.4.4) under Windows 7: Playlists to MP3s are SILENT and, a huge huge huge issue for me:

Numark Mixmeister Control completely and utterly FREEZES Fusion.

I got around this for a major gig by having an IT person install XP on my laptop, but I need at least Vista and preferably 7, so I re-installed a clean, licensed 7 Ultimate.

Now I have to look at purchasing a used XP laptop because this ain't looking too good.

Getting Back To This Windows 7 Testing…

First I would like to apologize for the long delay.
1) I have a lot going on in my life and 2) I really wanted to give this the right tests.

Alright,
I have tested Windows 7 32bit as well as 64bit and I have found that Windows 7 32bit works best. First of all I will go back to something I learned from an external sound card company and have mentioned on Beatmixing.com before and it only makes since. If you are running Windows 7, Vista or XP you would want your program(s) or drivers tailored or specifically made for your operating system. Meaning, if you purchase a sound card that says it is made for XP, then you would not want to waste your money because the company has not taken the time to tweak the driver for Vista or Win7. However if they did make the driver so it did run on all three systems, “You Would Not Want It”! Why? Because it is going to run differently on each system.

With the above in mind… I have to say it is obvious (even though most companies would not agree)… Windows in any 32 or 64 bit will run differently! Again, this is a fact. I am not trying to put MixMeister down at all. I love the program. However I can only hope they understand that the tweaks for 32bit and 64bit are different. They can not be combined in one release of any program and run exactly the same.

Nonetheless, Here are my findings…
64bit had sound issues even with the updates to 7.4.4, also had driver issues.
32bit is running like a charm, however the lights do not work in the KJ-Master Limiter and Master EQ. I am thinking it is because these are such old add-on that they have not been updated in some time. Again, they work however the fake LED lights do not work. Maybe we could get some more current add-ons one day soon. Just a Request.

So all in all MixMeister works very smoothly in Windows 7 32bit. While I was trying to get the 64bit version to work better it finally hit me… “WHY”? LOL!
But seriously, if you are only running MixMeister, all your tunes, add-ons and some other music programs, there is no need for the 64bit. Plus, if you do not have 4GB of ram then there is not need for 64bit. Remember, 32bit has a max of 3.5BG while 64bit has a minimum of 4GB to run without flaws.

BTW: this is just one persons findings.

Request, does anyone know of any Equalizer Add-Ons that work in MixMeister (with the up-down knobs, not the turn style). Thanks

Hope I could help.

Banter
Is Summer Here Yet?

YEah but Numark MM Control does NOT work (freezes Fusion SOLID), and Numark has not bothered to reply to email follow ups to a tech support call. I would hardly say Fusion runs flawlessly. The silent output MP3s is a huge bug too.

Hey Jeffsterf,

Please do not misunderstand me…
I never said MixMeister runs flawlessly.

I mentioned it runs “Smoothly” on my system after testing 32bit and 64bit (again, on my system). I see that you posted above that you were having problems with your “Controller”. I did not test the program with a controller. I also notice others have made different posts about the controller not working and they too have received “NO” help.

I had this same support issue when switching from XP to Vista. All they kept posting is, You need an ASIO sound card. Well I did not need one in XP and the sound quality was good and now in Windows 7 I can use those same cards again. The answer was “Everyone” was too lazy to make new drivers (all companies). Nevertheless… All I can tell you is “Keep calling them Jeffsterf.

Here is a thought to your situation:
Was your controller made for 32bit or 64 bit?
I know things are running much better on 32bit. What version are you running? If you are running 64bit, I would suggest you try 32bit for now and see how things work… Oh, and please let us know as it only helps others (whether it works or not). Thanks

Banter

The controller is Numark's own. It worked flawlessly under XP and Vista 32 bit, and I have Windows 7 32 bit as well. There is not a driver issue because this is a MIDI device, does not require drivers per se.

Since this is "mission critical" to me and I need Windows 7 for other purposes, I have purchased a used Thinkpad notebook and XP SP3, which I will get next week.

That said, I am really really truly disappointed and disgusted with Numark and Mixmeister support. They know this is a problem and they are 100% completely ignoring my emails.

Do they not believe the problem exists? Do they know it exists and have no fix, ergo no need to keep me in the loop? Do they know it exists and really dont give a flying f&ck?

BTW,I am NOT a "New Beatmixer" as is associated with my profile on here for some reason. I have been using MM since 2002, Fusion since it was released, and the Numark Mixmeister Controller since the day it because available.

I have been a huge advocate for Fusion in the local DJ community. I play large, high-profile gigs here in SF and am a resident DJ on an internationally recognized down-tempo show.

New, no. Disgruntled, yes.