My friend and I finally got the webcasting thing to work. It really depended on me finally getting DSL.

But here's my question: I used the DOS window and the PING instructions to get my IP number ... only the number was useless. So I used Ask Jeeves, got a different number and VOILA! we're in business.

Anyone care to educated me on why Ask Jeeves returns a valid number while the PING routine returned what was probably a LAN-related IP? I wonder if this has stymied anybody else and left them thinking the webcasting function didn't work...

The real question is whether or not webcasting works on the Ask Jeeves IP address. I understand that it is. I can't really explain that.

Here is another common problem you may experience:

If your DSL or cable connection is going through a router, you are probably on a sub network that is bridged to the Internet. This means that your machine has one IP address and the router is mapping it to another.

Specifically, if the IP address you got at the DOS window was in the range 192.168.1.0 - 192.168.1.255, then your machine isn't accessible from the Internet. You can access the Internet through the router, but external machines can reach you directly.

This can be a good thing or a bad thing. If you are trying to source a webcast or host a website, you have some work to do. On the other hand, it is harder for hackers to break into your machine because they can't access it directly.

Does this help?

MM_Aaron
www.mixmeister.com

First, yes: the Jeeves-defined IP did work ... she got the webcast, and I could hear it thru the phone, so there's no mistake.

Now, just to add a wrinkle to things: I don't use a router. For some reason that usually leaves ppl shaking their heads, I get by w/ a 4-port hub: 3 computers on my LAN and the DSL modem interact thru this hub and it will serve simultaneous web access to at least 2 computers at a time (I've never needed to try 3 at a time....) But I think it does the same thing you're talking about: establishes a gateway IP w/ subnet numbers assigned to the LAN members.

So two things are happening that should not be easy, at the very least: getting by w/ a hub instead of a router, and getting the webcast to work in these circumstances AND using an IP address supplied by Ask Jeeves.

Not that I'm complaining, you understand I just thought it was curious....

Consider me shaking my head.

If it works--go with it!

MM_Aaron
www.mixmeister.com

Mme Fly,

Sounds like you Cable provider is allocating a DHCP address for you cable modem. A DNS name will be registered to the external IP address. So if you PING .yourcableco.com you should see your outisde IP address - This is how Jeeves sees it.


The reason for the multiple IPs (192.168.x.x) and x.x.x.x externally is because the Cable Modem is performing NAT (Network Address Translation) it also sounds like the Modem is also a DHCP server.

Hope this makes some sense...

...oo00Mixmeister mixes your whites, whiter!OOoo...

Does what you say apply to DSL also? I'm on dial-up DSL, not cable.

So, when I pinged and got the LAN IP (by the looks of it) is that because I'm pinging my computer's name (as in, the name you assign when you set up the LAN, to distinguish bet. machines) -- rather than the way you describe (hostname@providername.com)?

I guess I'm asking, was the ping wrong because it was on the inside looking in, whereas AskJeeves was on the outside looking in and saw the actual IP that was assigned to my line for that session? (boy! am I technical here or what?!? Just ask me to slow down if I'm gettin' ahead of ya ... lol).

Anyhow, this is one of those "curiosity only" things because it worked fine, just not in the predictable way. I raised the issue mostly because it might also be relevant to others whose webcasting attempts failed ... which makes me curious (again!) -- how many of you have tried webcasting? How many were successful?

If it makes you feel any better MadameFLY I have 5 pc's at work on DSL and only use a hub no router either & it works fine for everything and you can access the net on any or all pc's at the same time with no problems usually,don't know about a webcast though as none of them have sounds cards in them...but I plan on secretly fixxing that problem very soon.

"Don't touch that dial....your radio's locked on your favorite station..."

"In MiXx We TrUsT"

If you're IP address is dynamically assigned each time you login, you might want to consider these people No IP. They offer a free service for DNS name to Dynamic IP registration. So if you're webcasting you can always be found thro the same name .com or whatever.

...oo00Mixmeister mixes your whites, whiter!OOoo...

That's pretty impressive ... seems like I could serve BeatConscious.net from home using this service (I guess I'd leave BC.org hosted where it is for the time being....) I will most definitely check them out -- thanks!

So, what steps would one take to get around this problem? My LAN IP is 192.168.2.26, but when I get my IP from websites, I am told that the IP is 24.51.155.111. People on my local network can access my webcast, but others cannot. Any ideas? Thanks for your help.

-Peer Pressure

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Originally posted by MM_Aaron:

If your DSL or cable connection is going through a router, you are probably on a sub network that is bridged to the Internet. This means that your machine has one IP address and the router is mapping it to another.

Specifically, if the IP address you got at the DOS window was in the range 192.168.1.0 - 192.168.1.255, then your machine isn't accessible from the Internet. You can access the Internet through the router, but external machines can reach you directly.

This can be a good thing or a bad thing. If you are trying to source a webcast or host a website, you have some work to do. On the other hand, it is harder for hackers to break into your machine because they can't access it directly.

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Basically the 24.51.155.111 address is the ip address of your internet facing connection, i.e. your router or firewall. You need to configure this box to allow traffic through to the machine doing the webcast, probably by directing requests on a certain port to your webcasting machine.

Without specific technical details of your lan/router setup it will be difficult to help you much more than that.

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BOOM!

i.e. - NAT your external ip to the internal ip on the specific port or setup the machine on a DMZ.

-= Douglas aka Doug Fresh
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Hey guys, thanks for your help. I actually got it working. Here's what to do if you're in my situation and have a Microsoft router.

I went into the Base Station Management tool. From there, I went to "Security" on the menu, and then to "Port Forwarding." Click on "Persistent Port Forwarding."

Then you just fill out the info... a description of what you're forwarding, the port(s) you're concerned with (in this case, just type in "7007", there is no "range" of ports), and make sure to type in YOUR correct LAN IP address. Hit apply.

Voila, I'm webcasting. Thanks guys!

Im having the same problem as peer pressure is, but when it comes to inputting the ip for the port forwarding it says 1 is out of range and my lan ip ends in 1, help me plz.

I recently switch to verizon online and have a westell 327w router modem. man, i cant get this thing to webcast no matter what i do. if anyone can shed some light on this subject it would greatly be appreciated.
-Max

Anyone???